Episode 15: Mileage – An Interview with Artist Daniel Landerman

In this episode, I have a very special guest, he’s an artist of extraordinary talent. I met him briefly at San Diego Comic Con a few years ago where he had a pile of his sketch books at his table and I was able to just sort of stand there and flip through actual cracked and worn leather bound volumes of his work, some of it casual, some of it inked, some of it finished, all of it mind-blowingly cool. We have a great conversation about art and about his working habits, how he learned, what he does professionally and even some general stuff about loving the fantasy genre.

Bookmarks
00:00:00 – Opening (News & Sundries)
00:05:50 – Interview
01:16:39 – Hobby Progress
01:20:34 – Section Charlie

In Section Charlie, where I highlight something or someone cool I’ve come across on the internet I was going to highlight a Facebook group – but I literally watched a YouTube video that I am going to shoutout because it was highly informative. To me anyway. And surprising! Now, fair warning, this 10 minute video about color, specifically about primary colors and how everything we’re taught in grade school is a lie, does have a certain amount of f-bombs, which is unfortunate only because I’d love for my nieces and nephews to be able to watch this but my sisters are most definitely NOT going to let them watch it. The YouTuber’s name is Echo Gillette and the name of the video is This is not BLUE (a lesson in color theory). Now, a lot of you out there probably know all the stuff she talks about in the video but I’ll bet there’s a few of you that have no idea. Like, say, how magenta is a color that actually does not exist. And how old style TV screens (the ones built with Red Green and Blue pixels) create Yellow with only Red and Green pixels. I just found the video highly informative, illustrative and engaging to watch. I suddenly have a whole new set of information with which to approach painting and I need all the help I can get! She talks about how the triadic color wheel is a social construct versus the real pigment color wheel of cyan magenta and yellow. Check it out here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhA18_dmg0

SHOW NOTES

Daniel Landerman on Instagram
Daniel Landerman on YouTube
Daniel Landerman on Twitch.tv
DanieLanderman.com
DanielDraws.art

Daniel’s inspirational artists:
Mark Gibbons
Frank Frazetta
Claire Wendling
Iain Mccaig
Alfons Mucha
Jeffery Catherine Jones
Yoshitaka Amano

Some Art by Daniel Landerman

Connect with me on Instagram, discover more content on Patreon and watch the YouTube versions of the podcast episodes which contain time-lapse footage of working at the paint desk!

Watch the YouTube version of the podcast which contains time-lapse footage of working at the paint desk!

Show Transcript (not including actual interview)

Good morning! Good afternoon! Good evening! Good night! No, not good night, I take it back. Good day, how ‘bout that? How are you guys doing this week? I’m doing all right, my name is CryinMo and this is Tabletop Alchemy! Episode 15! That’s a nice sounding number, isn’t it? I mean, as far as a number declaring how many episodes I’ve produced? I know, I know, you guys are like, dude, let’s see triple digits, then we’ll see how serious you are. All right, I’ll take that bet. 

So this is a podcast about tabletop gaming, specifically Dungeons & Dragons, Warhammer, miniatures and miniature painting, terrain crafting and tabletop skirmish games and all the other little things that come along with those hobbies. My goal is to provide you with something interesting you can listen to while you work on your own hobby stuff or provide hobby genre talk while you’re on the move, afoot or abroad, maybe on a train or a bus. Maybe even a boat! I don’t know about that, but hey, you can find this podcast on Spotify, Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Overcast, Tune In and I always post a video version on YouTube as well that usually has some footage of whatever I was able to work on at the painting desk this week. You’ll find show notes and full episodes at cryinmo.com and you can also find links to all my social media stuff there as well, including Instagram, Facebook and Patreon. Speaking of Patreon, as always, I tip my hat to you wonderful patrons out there, you guys and gals helping keep the dream alive! And I’m always sending good vibes out to the audience at large, always remember there’s lots of us out here swinging at life with both fists and rooting for each other. We take the downs on the chin and the ups on … uh … I’m not sure where I was going with that. You know, my whole “life is a roller coaster” thing. Living means you got downs and ups and you’re getting em no matter what. So work hard to keep your internal gyroscope level, that’s all we can do. 

Okay, last episode we had a movie quote and that quote came from Tombstone and it was delivered by Kurt Russell’s Wyatt Earp. I just wanted to lock that up, so that you know that I know I’m paying attention. That made sense before I said it out loud.

Okay, so today I have a very special guest on the other side of the Skype machine, he’s an artist of extraordinary talent. An illustrator and painter, I met him briefly at San Diego Comic Con a few years ago where he had a pile of his sketch books at his table and I was able to just sort of stand there and flip through actual cracked and worn leather bound volumes of his work, some of it casual, some of it inked, some of it finished, all of it mind-glowingly cool. To me anyway. 

We have a fairly long conversation today about art and about his working habits, how he learned, what he does professionally today and even some general stuff about loving the fantasy genre. Before you turn this off, thinking maybe that since you’re a tabletop gamer, you’re into miniature painting or Dungeons & Dragons and there’s nothing here for you, I’d like to suggest that the concepts and some of the specific things we talk about you might really find interesting and very applicable to your hobbies and artistic pursuits in life. I know I did. 

I’d also yell at everyone to go and visit this man’s Instagram. As soon as you can. You’ll find him at instagram.com slash daniel underscore landerman. That’s Daniel underscore L A N D E R M A N. Some of his latest professional work can be seen in the Avengers End Game Imax movie poster and also I believe at least one of the live action Lion King movie posters. 

Let’s meet him!

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All right, I cannot WAIT for that Kickstarter! Many thanks again to Daniel for taking a couple hours out of his weekend to chat with me, much much appreciated. As I said, I have a slew of questions and topics that I would have loved to have been able to discuss with him, but alas, time is hardly ever our friend. I shouldn’t say that, time and the universe is just as much our friend as our adversary at any given moment. 

My biggest take-away from our conversation today is the whole mileage thing. You wanna be good at the thing? Then you do the thing. Over and over and over and over. And then you do it for about thirty more years. You love it, you hate it, whatever it is, but you make it yours purely through persistence and mileage. That goes for miniature painting, adventure writing, terrain building, storytelling, all the things we get up to in this podcast – some more than others, I know, I know. 

But as I said earlier, if you haven’t gone to check out Mr. Landerman’s Instagram feed … what in the world are you doing? Go! Check it out! Unless you’re driving, if you’re behind the wheel, you know, don’t go anywhere on your phone. The links are waiting for you in the show notes at cryinmo.com, episode fifteen! They’ll be there. 

All right, how about some hobby progress?

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Hobby Progress! Was dismal this week, to be perfectly honest. I actually had some day job stuff this week so that impacted what I was able to get done. I finishing up those Games Workshop skeleton warriors. They are definitely cool little guys, their poses are very animated, they feel like they are lurching forward Ray Harryhausen style to chop and bludgeon their way through some opponents. I did some minor conversions on them, simple things like substituting two one-handed weapons instead of shield but for the most part they are fairly stock. I used a little bit of beach sand mixed with Liquitex Flexible Modeling Paste to texture the bases, I think that stuff’s gotta be very similar to Vallejo earth texture products. But I don’t have any of that on hand to compare. Yet. I’ve used some Citadel contrast paints on them and of course a bunch of washes and dry brushing. Remember that scene at the end of season 4 in Game of Thrones? Where all the skeletons pop up out of the snow and those elven Children of the Forest are slinging magic missiles at ‘em – one of my favorite scenes in fantasy movies ever. The first time I saw that, I was just WOW THIS IS AWESOME! Pure Dungeons and Dragons, all the way, hundred percent. One day I’ll do an episode where we just talk movies, that would be fun. All right, the only other thing I can bring up this section is the fact that my copy of Warcry arrived last week and I haven’t even opened the shipping box yet, that’s how busy I’ve been. So I have that to look forward to. And I picked up a box of Bladegheists from Games Workshop. They’ve been on my list for quite a while and I just couldn’t stare at their sculpts any longer, I had to get ‘em. They are so freaking cool, just the motion and body language sculpted into them, their weird iron masks, those crazy two-handed swords, just too cool. They look like they were designed by Disney animators. I have a handful of sets from the Nighthaunt faction, and they’re all chosen by the rule of cool, since I really have no intention of playing Age of Sigmar. I’ve got those Bladegheists, I’ve got the trippy mermaid ghosts – they’re not mermaids per se but they evoke that feeling because of their poses, they’re like flowing robes and empty female breastplates, super cool, Kiera likes them, and they are posed like they’re swimming through water or something, very very cool. And then I’ve got two of the Nighthaunt horsemen, those guys also have big ol’ swords and horses that are half mist, and the last set I have are the weird scythe-wielding animal skull ghosts, I’m not exactly sure what they are supposed to be, maybe like undead beastmen or undead centaurs or something. I’m sure the lore for them is on the GW website somewhere. They’ll be great to use in D&D. Okay, enough collection porn, time for section Charlie! 

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Where I get to highlight someone or something I’ve found on the internet that I think is cool enough to jabber about. All right, I was going to highlight a Facebook group, totally – I have the whole script for that right here in front of me. But I literally just watched a YouTube video that I am not going to shoutout because it was highly informative. To me anyway. And surprising! Now, fair warning, this 10 minute video about color, specifically about primary colors and how everything we’re taught in grade school is a lie, does have a certain amount of f-bombs, which is unfortunate only because I’d love for my nieces and nephews to be able to watch this but my sisters and brother are most definitely NOT going to let them watch it. This video popped up in my suggested list, so the YouTuber is not someone I follow, but based on this video I will probably take a quick look at her catalog just to see what else she’s done. Her name is Echo Gillette and the name of the video is This is not BLUE (a lesson in color theory). Now, a lot of you out there probably know all the stuff she talks about in the video but I’ll bet there’s a few of you that have no idea. Like, say, how magenta is a color that actually does not exist. And how old style TV screens (the ones built with Red Green and Blue pixels) create Yellow with only Red and Green pixels. I just found the video highly informative, illustrative and engaging to watch. I suddenly have a whole new set of information with which to approach painting and I need all the help I can get! She talks about how the triadic color wheel is a social construct versus the real pigment color wheel of cyan magenta and yellow. 

Awesome stuff, highly recommended, link in the show notes and that puts a trident in this fish, it’s time to go paint some figures, build some terrain, schedule a game, cast a spell, roll some dice. Hope you guys have a wonderful week and remember: the answer is … mileage. Do the thing. See ya!